so you're running for governor of iowa and we can get into the whole politics of
that uh maybe later but i'm interested in why you know i think um i think the
the primary catalyst for me doing this was i believe we are losing our culture
and our heritages of people that's my honest belief and i believe it's not just
in iowa it's across the country but when i look around and see people that were
running for office it was all about policy it's all about here's this tax rate
or you know this regulation needs to be changed and i just thought no one is
standing up to say we have to get the culture right first we have to step in and
say what does it mean to be an american what does it mean to be an iowan and are
the traditions and the heritage and the value of our ancestors important to us
and that's the in the deepest part of my heart what motivates me in something
like this i actually don't want to be a politician i bet i've not had interest
in it you know i spent a lot of my life in the private sector and building
schools and i have a i have a pretty good life i have a great family and a wife
who loves me and supports me uh but you know in um you know uh 1850 my family
came over from germany and great great grandpa built our farmhouse and we had
that same house on this piece of land in iowa until 2005 and my great
grandmother passed away and i can still remember my grandma called me and she
said zach you wouldn't want anything to this old farmhouse would you and i had
you know graduated from high school in iowa i was off in college and i said no
i'm i'm there's something better out here i'm i'm off to get something to find
something better and then uh a number of years later i was driving by to see my
other great grandmother who lived to be 103 um and i drove by the old farm and i
just drove up i said hey could i take a look around and they said yeah i said
you know my great great grandpa built this he was a third class passenger on the
ss wyland coming from hamburg germany as a 14 year old he was in the stowage
that's where he traveled over to america and uh he became a carpenter and then
earned enough money to buy the farm and build it with his uncle and i said hey
if you're ever thinking about selling it will you please let me know and i just
didn't think anything coming to that at that time but uh a couple years later
they called me and said hey we're going to sell this farm would you want i'm
like yes i don't know how i'm going to do it but uh i ended up scraping together
enough money to get an fha loan a down payment and i bought the farm and then
since that time in 2014 i've been working to rebuild it and restore it and is
the house still there house is still there you know when i bought it it was you
know covered in vinyls it had been completely changed on the outside um yeah 150
years a long time yeah and and being completely changed on the outside but i
went to my my dad's cousin peter and he just kind of had the repository of great
grandma's photos and so i got this palette of boxes of photos and i spent i'm
not i'm not kidding hundreds of hours going through photos and i was looking for
every photo i could find at this old farmhouse and i'll tell you to anybody who
wants to be radicalized on what we've lost as a culture spend that much time
going through your great-grandmother's photos yeah and you'll realize the
community the traditions the pride i've done it a lot of it's gone it's
unrecognizable unrecognizable and so i did that and uh i found every single
picture i could find and i put the house back together board by board counted
every single piece of siding make sure it matched and now we live in the home
that was built by my great-great-grandfather um and i i tell people i didn't do
that so i could run for governor i mean that i started doing this over 10 years
ago i did it because i wanted my children to understand their story and that
their heritage and their culture what built them the man who built this house
who i bet hoped someday my kids would live in it yes but knew he would never
meet them that that story matters deeply and so that's what really got me into
this you know uh i was not looking to run for for the seat and as i was talking
to my wife about this the current governor of iowa who by the way has done a
very good job i mean we're likely other than florida maybe the one of the most
conservative states and she's done a great job at that you're a nice person yeah
um you know when um we were looking at this my wife said you know the seat
hasn't been opened in 20 years and there are issues in our state that are not
dealing with taxes that are not dealing with regulations that are systemic deep
issues that are really causing our people to be hurt and i talk about them all
the time and it's kind of from her this moment of hey you know put up or stop
talking about it because this is an opportunity to go make real change and so
that's why i'm running so you said there are systemic issues that are not
included in the normal palette of politician concerns which would be taxes and
regulation how just in order of importance can you go through a few of them well
i think you know i i've spent my life uh in large part as an entrepreneur and uh
in businesses organization i've run or started i have key metrics that i'm
tracking to know the health of my my companies or the health of an organization
and you know i think i think on that list for a state is the physical climate of
it that's no doubt that's part of it like can people afford to live here yes
that's a big part of course but the other there's other deeper issues that i
think are more long-term and focus that we you know because of this like
constant news cycle of what's happening right now that we all have to respond to
which thank god i'm not running for a federal office because it's like never
ending and always changing but because of um because of that often we're
distracted or our eyes are taken off the ball purposely from the big issues and
a couple of them are this iowa's number four in the nation for net out migration
of our kids 25 to 29 yeah how can you build a state if your people are leaving
import new people yeah yeah yes we can talk about that um another one would be
you know 25 percent of our farmlands now owned by out-of-state investors and
funds that don't live in our state so our farmers who have had this ancestral
connection to the land are now becoming tenants again something we left germany
in large part for you know just take a side quest here for a second i remember
when i was doing all that research in my family to understand a lot about the
history and uh and what drove them to leave this homeland of theirs you know
because i was made up you know 35 40 percent german immigrants came over very
industrious people very family oriented people uh people that had pride in the
work that they do objectively some of the best people ever i would i would say
that i'm not one of them but i just i just i just have noticed yeah big on
tradition and and um and big on family and uh a lot of pride in where they came
from so what would motivate people to leave and you know i think the common
answer we always heard was well it's religious persecution and so i started to
get interested in this just to understand more what were the real conditions and
i actually found out that uh you know my family a lot of germans came over
around 1850 well in 1848 in germany there's an attempted revolution across
across europe across europe yes and it was called the 48ers and what did they
want they well they wanted to be able to own the ground under their feet they
wanted free speech they didn't like slavery they had a lot of these you know now
what we call western ideals it was the end of feudalism yes right and so what
happened to them they were defeated and so in germany when they're defeated many
of them got exiled and then many others just left well what state came online in
1846 was iowa and it was also very agrarian just like where they came from and
so many of these people came over and i like to talk about this that you know uh
one of the key points in iowa's history that i'm most proud of is how iowans
responded during the civil war so you know we had the missouri compromise we had
the kansas nebraska act um and with that with that decision of you know they
sort of get to decide whether or not they're going to be free slave there was a
lot of wealthy landowning elites that were rushing to the midwest to try to
lobby to create slave states of course and this i was plantations on the prairie
right and i was not a part of this you know um but one of my favorite stories in
1861 the governor of iowa his name was governor samuel kirkwood he was on his
plow in his field when a messenger from the department of war brought a message
on horseback to him and then the president said he needed to put together a
company of 750 troops to be ready in two weeks and you might mind you this is 15
years after i became a state we were in our infancy and he said 750 troops in
two weeks how can that be done in two weeks later 10 000 iowans had signed up by
the end of the civil war more islands fought in the civil war than any other
state per capita why was that i believe and there's some evidence of course i've
read deeply in this that they had just left a country that they saw oppression
in and they fled that left everything and they were saying this isn't going to
happen here so i think when you talk about land and you talk about now 25 of our
land is now owned by people that don't live in our state they're not
contributing to our communities they don't go to the football games they're not
shopping on main street it's a real generational issue and i go to these
auctions i've been against many of these people land auctions oh yeah and very
often it's a farm management company the actual owner we don't know who they are
we actually don't know who owns our land in iowa there's not human level
disclosure that's required so you can own land in llc and that llc could be
wholly owned by a trust and all the state knows is that the llc owns the land
that's it and so we've gotten to this place where just common courtesy or just
common tradition of knowing who your neighbors are is not there anymore well
it's impossible yeah in in purpose if you don't can't find their names it's kind
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is require human level disclosure of land ownership because i would bet that
it's actually more than 25 percent of our lands of course it is owned by people
so then another two other ones by the way if you don't you know have to bear the
consequences of your actions then you're much more likely to exploit and degrade
the community that you're taking money from so like why wouldn't you i mean why
do you care about long-term best practices you don't you're just extracting
wealth this is the spiritual part of the discussion i believe you know i i was
my father was a 30-year conservationist and a pastor and um i grew up like
learning to love and appreciate the place i i tell i've said this before but you
know he legitimately made me believe that every sunset was made for me by god
amen we'd be driving and say look at what god made for you and i still think
those things to this day of just like those little pieces that made me
appreciate creation and one of my favorite clips from your show ever ever is
when you're on with bobby kennedy and he was having that discussion about how
nature is how we connect deeply with god yeah it makes me emotional thinking
about it i couldn't agree more i sent that to so many people and especially my
father because it it's true and it's language we don't use anymore it brings you
to a higher place and it helps you understand like this is much deeper than just
who owns a piece of land or what's happening it's it's actually like we are
connected to god through the land through his creation and it's on every page of
the bible from genesis to revelation that's there's a lot of nature it's what's
what's the garden of eden filled with trees rivers animals right okay and all
the parables that have to do that of course so so that of course that's a
systemic issue and let me say that that's been going on for a long time and
nobody's really talked about it you go to a cafe every farmer's talking about
these things about like how do you see that we had a piece of land in northwest
iowa recently go for thirty two thousand dollars an acre not development plan
okay i'm interested i'm a land buyer i'm interested in land i'm interested you
know and all that how do you get to thirty two thousand dollars an acre even for
you know famously productive farmland like what is that what's the potential
return on that how did that happen well let's just say commonly we'll go to
twenty thousand dollars an acre that's fairly common in northwest iowa some it's
some of the best land in the world it is it is and so you know look outside
investors look at iowa as as a great investment because it's a solid asset yes a
hedge against the dollar of course and you get a dividend like you rent out the
land like oh and so one of the things i i kind of complain or opine about a lot
is that our land isn't an asset class it's actually was meant as the inheritance
for the sons and daughters of our state to build their lives their communities
and their families and when they're tenants on that land and they're paying high
dollar rent because the only way you can justify a high price like that is very
high rent um you you're stripping away a lot of you know go back to say it's
like kind of the spiritual aspect of this and that land is best when it's owned
and farmed by the same person it's we know this we know this from if you own
rental properties where it may be like there's a connection of stewardship that
comes with that to know that i'm passing this piece of ground on to my grandkids
and their kids and their kids and that's what it should be but that that is
being actively taken away in our state it's a two other things that i i think
are big systemic issues that are on my scorecard as i'd say is one is our
farmers are actively being exploited by big ag companies when i was growing up
uh born in iowa we had over 300 seed and input companies you know fertilizer and
and agrochemical companies that were selling to our farmers today that number's
three that control 85 percent of the market over 90 of seed technology is owned
by two companies monsanto actually it's uh bayern and corteva on 90 of this of
the uh which owns monsanto now yeah see technology no i of course but i forgot
that monsanto doesn't actually exist anymore does it i don't think so they
changed the name yeah it was bought by bear in germany yeah they're they're sure
mentioned a lot in court still but you know they're not um they're not a company
but so if you look at the long-term trend that anytime there's a rise in
commodity prices these input costs go up even though there's not a court direct
correlating factor you know there's a study out of the university illinois and
this study compared the cost of farming in brazil to the cost of farming in
illinois iowa basically and you have to understand that the three big companies
in america that provide these inputs are also the same three big companies in
brazil bayer corteva and syngenta that study said that for growing corn using
the same application rate that they're charging brazilian farmers about 150 less
per acre than they are iowa farmers how well the real answer is because they're
an unchecked monopoly and competition doesn't exist there's tacit collusion but
he he here's how it actually works they they have what they call regional based
pricing but what it really is is this when they look at uh their pricing they
base it on the yield that you're going to create so let's say you have more
productive land even though you're using the same amount of product they're
going to take more you have less productive land even though you use the same
amount of product they're going to take more it's it's wrong you know and i will
i'll give credit to brooke rollins and donald trump and the administration
they're talking about bringing antitrust and and investing in this with
department of justice and one of the things i've pledged to do that if i'm
governor of iowa i'm going to lead the charge to bring antitrust suits against
these companies that are exploiting our farmers because they're taking every
dollar they possibly can and we're already on life support i mean many many most
farms are operating at a loss right now and when you talk to farmers about this
you do not in like i can't emphasize this enough you do not hear them talk about
tariffs they're not matter of fact the price of soybeans this year with the
tariffs was higher than it was last year before the tariffs the change came that
the cost of growing went up i mean the cost of the input products that they're
that they're using went up and so i i tell people all the time the tariffs are
not the issue we have to get this unchecked monopoly and in check and under
control obviously inputs are essential uh to agriculture or to any and creating
anything um one of them is diesel fuel not a lot of movement there but then you
have the products that you just mentioned seeds and fertilizer taking out seeds
let's just focus on fertilizer what are the products like well um i mean it just
depends on the most common product you know for fertilizers in hydrous ammonia
it's uh used in the fall it's where a lot of a lot of um the nitrogen comes from
but then you have other products uh that are you know uh or you know um products
from earth you know potassium potash uh those things uh but you look at the the
trend of the pricing in these you know um i think it was five years ago in the
past five years nitrogen fertilizers went up 150 percent and the price of corn's
down two percent so farmers are they're really being i would say extorted in
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by and i don't know much about it but i was hunting on a farm in november right
before thanksgiving a big big big working farm and i was with the ranch manager
in um in a truck and he said this is a truck we used to spray roundup and i said
people still using roundup i don't know you know i'm not in the ag business i
thought roundup was bad yeah again i'm i'm very ignorant but i just thought i
didn't realize that people were still spraying roundup he said oh everyone
sprays roundup like everybody does and we kind of don't talk about it and i'm
like hmm i mean is that i'm not attacking roundup specifically but like are we
sure that these chemicals are all safe well you know well roundup is the most uh
high it's the most highly used herbicide in the history of the country this is
the world because it's so effective i mean i've seen it's losing its
effectiveness greatly and now it's true oh yeah it has to be yeah you'll have um
different mixtures now yeah that'll go in because they're we're getting roundup
resistant glyphosate resistant weeds and now there's a high percentage of weeds
have glyphosate resistance so you know you know i think in some ways the life
cycle of roundup is is is kind of it's going to be coming to an end on its own
it's limited by nature it's limited by nature and new products are coming out
but i will tell you this when you talk about safety of products well let me back
up and and just talk about uh the companies i mentioned the three big companies
that are controlling the ag input market bayer cortevans and there's other ones
but bayers a german company yes corteva is an american company top shareholders
are blackrock vanguard and state street of that company but syngenta is a wholly
owned state enterprise of the chinese government actually hundred percent so
about somewhere on the on the uh end of five million acres in our state has
chemicals and seed technology from a company that's a wholly owned company of
the state of china the country of china so i mentioned that to say this if you
talk to farmers about some of these products and you know uh like i said
glyphosate or roundup is you know very ubiquitously used but if you talk to them
about products even many of them won't use anymore you'll get to products like
paraquat paraquat is uh actually it was really originally formulated by syngenta
this was used in uh anti-drug spraying in latin america was very controversial
for that in it in it it'll burn down plants in a matter of hours but but if
you're exposed to paraquat your chance of parkinson's doubles matter of fact
actually oh yes parkinson's there's people if you that's something you don't
want to get no and if you go next and you type in and you just like look at
paraquat you'll find stories of farmers who just will not use anymore they'll
tell stories of you know spraying it and immediately getting like or that day
getting like uncontrollable bloody noses it's it's a very very harsh product and
it's still spray i think the estimate the best estimate is about 300 000 acres
of land in iowa use this product this product is actually used in research
settings in mice and rodents to induce parkinson's are you being serious i'm a
hundred percent serious and our epa and this is where the big issue lies our epa
still allows it so if we're talking about like are these are these products
harmful like well we can get into that more but yes well we know if it doubles
your chance of parkinson's you're going to have to explain the upside to
continue selling that product i mean my instinct is like well you'd ban that
today that's and i think that's what what people parkinson's come on now that's
true suffering it yeah it's it's a sentence you don't want no but when you you
can research this your listeners can research this it is used to induce
parkinson's in research settings i mean so so when i talk about these products
you know i think what farmers want is to understand the truth to like know that
their government is telling them the truth about these products he was but as
with many other things the corporate capture is so heavy and so when you talk
about glyphosate or glyphosate based herbicides roundup is one of them there's
many glyphosate based herbicides the epa has studied this for years um we know
way more than we've ever known about this and we also know that there are
significant risks associated with its use and so for example one of the most uh
known cases is the uh case of the groundskeeper in california the first major
lawsuit against monsanto and this was a a man who was his job was to work for
the school districts and spray glyphosate and uh the hose broke on his on his uh
packer in his in his little cart and it ended up showering him with this product
in a matter of months he had lesions all over his body and he sends emails to
monsanto asking what should i do here i mean they're very like i need help like
not i'm trying to blame you he's like what what do i do to solve this problem
well if you fast forward in that trial the uh when they were in the discovery
process the judge agreed to make a large portion of the discovery confidential
meaning that it wasn't you know wasn't to be released but the plaintiffs could
challenge something or request the disclosure of it and they could request a
meet and confer to talk about him and they requested it at one point and the
monsanto attorneys i think literally said the words go away we're not going to
disclose anything else but then there's do i get to do that next time i get sued
go away go away and so but there's a stipulation there that said if they didn't
if monsanto didn't put in there another request to continue the confidentiality
within 30 days that the confidentiality was waived they forgot to respond and so
now we have millions of pages of documents called the monsanto papers millions
and in those documents it is an absolute master class in corporate capture to
the effect of you know that email that he sent to the company they opened it
they read it they forwarded around what should we do here and they just didn't
respond to him i'm a man who's like hurting who's oh the initial email i'm
covered in lesions from your product what should i do what should i do yeah
basically he's asking for help they read it forwarded around what do we do with
this nobody responded to him and there's he sent two of those emails i believe
it was two but in there's also things like there was a time and place where
another governmental body was going to be doing a study on the safety of
glyphosate or roundup on in this case and the epa official that monsanto was
working with at the time got wind of this and in the email with the with the
monsanto uh official he's recounting his conversation with this epa official and
in it he said this the the official said to him on the phone he quotes it in the
email if i can kill this i should get a medal and he did he prevented this other
governmental body from doing their own independent research on the safety and
effectiveness of glyphosate of roundup come on now this is real this is out
there this is 2000 this is the regulator this is the regulator yes and so this
is out there and other egregious examples of and i say this just say this um
very often i'm talking to farmers who i love who are my friends and my neighbors
and my family and i am one of them we actively farm our own land i work with
young farmers that you know to help them have an opportunity to be on land we
share crop but i'm in there i'm doing this the most common comment i get from
people is if it wasn't safe they wouldn't let me use it and i'm just here to say
that's a lie just like they were captured during covid and the medical
establishment captured agencies just like bobby kennedy is fighting right now
and donald trump is fighting right now these agencies have been captured for a
long time and they've been lying to the consumers about the safety and efficacy
of their products and my whole goal here i'm not here to sit and say we should
ban x y or z that's not what i'm talking about i mean think there's certain
things like paraquat probably should not be used i mean it doubles your risk of
parkinson's like hard no hard no it shouldn't be used but what i want is good
science so farmers can say do i want to use this product and we can say should
this product be allowed and also know if i'm going to use this product this is
how it should be used i mean you have commercials i mean we know how glyphosate
enters the bloodstream we know that if it if it's on your skin about 30 percent
enters your bloodstream about 10 percent of that is is uh through cardiac output
about 10 percent goes into your bone marrow in bone marrow glyphosate disrupts
the replication of hematopoietic stem cells they're differentiating from red to
white it's genotoxic there's 50 studies that show this like we know how it
happens and yet there's commercials showing people using this products in
flip-flops and shorts just saying like be cavalier about it we have many
products we use you go into my shop at the farm there's many products on the
shelf that if they're used improperly are bad for your health and they warn
about that on the label these do not not in that same way but in these papers
were also examples like this in 2000 there was a study called the williams study
it's the most cited study on the safety of glyphosate the most cited 99.9 of all
papers that cite the safety of glyphosate cite this study last month that study
was retracted because it was found that monsanto executives wrote it wrote the
study but here's here's maybe even the worst part we found that out in 2017 and
it was retracted in 2025 the monsanto executive actually said when he's sending
this back he better not have any revisions that's what he said and so look you
know i think oftentimes when you talk about this subject especially in my home
state there's this desire to paint you as some liberal hippie that doesn't like
farming like i'm the exact opposite of that i can tell i actually think that
wokeism is a mental disorder that's trying to destroy our country of course and
that we have got to fight to protect our culture our people and our heritage but
i also believe that our government has been captured in large part and this is
one of the most egregious examples it's really simple if you know why do you
love the country one of the reasons you love it is because of its physical
beauty the landscape i mean america is great because it's got great people and
because it's inherently great just beautiful and anyone who's despoiling nature
is an enemy of the country super simple anyone building ugly buildings spraying
poisonous chemicals those are our enemies those are not our friends i i don't
think it's complicated at all and that's that's not the liberal position the
liberals are the ones who are putting solar you know bulldozing trees to build
solar farms yeah let's just be clear about what this is it's an aggressive
coordinated effort to defile god's creation by people who hate god yeah not hard
abortion is directly related to building strip malls sorry they're both
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here's here's the thing i think farmers agree with a lot of this and of course
they do they're looking to say like look number one many of these guys would
like to try different things but when you're operating in razor thin margins the
idea of trying a new method of farming is not that appealing because like what
if it doesn't work and i actually can't you know keep the farm next year and so
these these are our people that enjoy hunting enjoy fishing enjoy nature want to
be outdoors like this is our culture that's what we like and you're right like
in we are the environmentalists like obviously you're the people that that want
to keep that and keep god's creation bernie sanders spends a lot of time outside
you think aoc can identify a tree species i mean these are people who are
rejecting nature rejecting beauty rejecting anything that is natural and pure
and trying to defile it that's their program yeah well and they they've been
completely captured by this side like this religion of carbon but it's it's
insane and so carbon is not i'm by the way admitting it right now carbon is not
the problem carbon is the basis of life the problem is man-made poisons so how's
the health okay so um i was still primarily in ag state obviously yeah we're we
are absolutely well you've ag in all 99 counties yes yes ag is is the largest
industry and and kind of come to the last point of like that that scorecard i
mentioned to you it's like we have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in
the history of human civilization what yes can you repeat that we have the
fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization iowa
iowa iowa matter of fact if you live in one of the top counties for cancer in
our state they're all rural counties your lifetime chance of getting cancer is
one and two and if you take iowa as a whole and you compare it to say a state
like nevada nevada actually has fairly low cancer rates in any given year that
is the highest smoking rate out of 50 states but one of the lowest cancer rates
iowa has very low smoking rates very low smoking rates relative certainly to
nevada and has a really high cancer rate i'm just just not a scientist i'm just
noticing i i just i picked nevada because i needed to pick a state that i was
like looking that is the highest smoking rate in america look it up so if you
choose to live in nevada over iowa in any given year your chance of getting
cancer is 40 less i've i've why have i never heard this 40 percent if you take
the top county for cancer in our state and you compare it 70 less actually
actually it is the top county in ag county oh yeah absolutely yeah it's not des
moines no no no no actually there's lower rates of cancer i mean per capita of
course in those in those places for real in your population centers they have
lower cancer it's uh the top 10 counties are all rural counties so you can say
that people who are spending the day outside getting physical exercise 12 months
a year when those people have higher cancer rates than someone working in a cube
in des moines then you start to think hmm maybe there are external factors we
should be looking at you know as i brought this up i find myself this is so
interesting i find myself with with a genuine care because like i said i'm not
trying to tell farmers how they have to farm i'm not trying to tell for
everybody they have to farm like me like we run a regenerative farm lots of it's
organic my goal is to help iowans live longer healthier lives help farmers make
more money and help kids stay on farms for longer that sounds like it's the
farmers who are being abused here they're the victims here a hundred percent
they're the ones getting cancer it's a hundred percent and that's that's you
know and i'll talk to farmers about this or i'll talk to people that you maybe
are big in the ag community and they hear these talking points they'll say like
applicators of these products have lower cancer rates and they're not wrong
that's actually an accurate statement meaning farmers in general as a whole can
have lower cancer rates but when you hone in specifically on non-hodgkin's
lymphoma leukemia they have much higher cancer rates the lifestyle of the job is
going to give you more exercise it's going to put you out and so there are these
things that lower it but you hear these industry talking points about like
actually there's lower lower in total it's like yeah but your chance of getting
these specific cancers linked to these products is much higher and so even with
the rate of cancer in our state you know i'm in a governor's race right now and
even with the rate of cancer in our state there's not one person talking about
these things that i'm talking about right now with the likely causes of the
cancer in our state we hear things like you fear you'll be attacked as a liberal
for bringing this up uh i i fear most that it's not a fear but most i think that
the ag associations especially ones are not member driven you know that are
constituted by actual farmers uh that take large checks from the companies that
i'm mentioning right now i think the most likely scenario that everybody's
warned me about is they're just going to come and try to destroy me i'm
literally here because i could get into tears thinking about the people that i
know that have gotten cancer my own father got it he was a he was a crop
consultant so his job was to go into fields check for pests weeds i used to do
this with him as a child so i i had a lot of fun doing it he'd he'd write a
report and he'd bring it back to the farmers and this is part of his job he did
it very well and this is just the norm it's what you did and he'd recommend this
is what you should apply he did that for over two decades and he was diagnosed
with one of these exact types of cancer and that's what really i think uh how
old was he he was uh 60 ouch well tucker this is maybe i'm sorry thank you you
know he's he's in he's in remission now thank the lord but this is where i think
this hits home spiritually too is that i think iowans and myself included you
know about three and a half months ago i went back to my hometown that i grew up
in in iowa for the funeral of my best friend from high school for his father he
died of died of cancer and again in the 60s and i tell people like i don't know
how many more of these funerals of men and women in their 60s i can go to when
their parents lived to be 80 like we're losing the wisdom of an entire
generation of people for sure and and when life expectancy goes down it's not
progress oh so i tell people and this is the more the political way to say it
look we can have amazing i'll say this i haven't told people i'm not running for
office because of policy i'm running because of culture and they say what does
that mean and i'll say look ask a republican in dearborn michigan how much he
cares about his tax rate or does he care that the muslim call to prayers on the
loudspeaker five times a day and he doesn't remember know where he's waking up
anymore and his culture's gone we have to protect our culture our founders
intended that to be the case we have a huge amount of talk about founders
primarily when it comes to fiscal issues and things like this we forget that i
think it was john adams has said something along the lines of public view virtue
is dependent on private virtue in public virtue is the only foundation of a
republic so we hear these things and you know this is a bit of a a bit of a
tangent here tucker but i've had to have a bit of a realization on this and to
understand better what's going on because i grew up in an era where libertarian
thinking was very pervasive it was all over the place i i agreed with much of it
and there's still things i do agree i was a fellow with the cato institute so
you don't need to apologize in my presence no i i know what you mean well it
wasn't that long ago that many americans thought they were inherently safe from
the kinds of disasters you hear about all the time in third world countries a
total power loss for example or people freezing to death in their own homes that
could never happen here obviously it's america people are recalculating
unfortunately because they have no choice the last few years have taught us that
remember when the power grid in texas failed in the dead of winter yeah it
happened and it could happen again so the government is not actually as reliable
as you hope they would be and the truth is the future is unforeseeable and
things do seem to be getting a little squirrely so if the grid does go down you
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com and i think what that amounted to is there's so many people have subscribed
to what i call this religion of economic thinking this idea of market
fundamentalism that the market matters above all and i say that that's not what
our ancestors believed it's not what our founders believed how has it worked
exactly you know i say about our ancestors they didn't come here to become
capitalists they came here to own the ground under their feet to build their
churches and communities and pass something on to the next generation to their
children of course but they didn't come here to do it at the detriment of their
neighbors they actually came here to do it helping their neighbors well you
obviously are a communist um i have to tell you the amount of arguments that i
hear from this generation that has subscribed to this religion of economic
thinking which by the way our founders did not support they were in favor of
tariffs they the states all had laws primarily all of them had laws to protect
moral virtue like this is a part of what they did they knew it and they knew
because the state has a role in that and we were we are a christian nation with
a christian form of government like our constitution could not have been created
by any other religion you're not endowed by a creator you're not you don't have
inalienable rights in christianity you do the divinity of the individual is real
we're made in the image of god and so i have these arguments with people where
i'm saying look 25 of our lands owned by us investors i'd like to raise their
property taxes i'd like to disincentivize this thing that's been happening in
our state and create a new category of of tax for investment land for people
that are coming in and prospecting and i'm just this is socialism this is
communism i'm just saying who says that it's this is what gets me is it's
self-defense is immoral now yeah right that's basically what they're saying
protecting you're not allowed to defend yourself yeah i would just say is right
iowa is not an economic zone for the world or for the country it's not you're
upsetting me yes i agree and so when i but when i say this it's oftentimes
people that were you know that were oftentimes it's people that were really
affected by the economic thinking that came out of the chicago school of
economics and i when i trace much of this back i look at what happened in the
1980s i think ronald reagan did a lot of great things but there's also this
market fundamentalism that really took over and then you look at what's been the
repercussions of that this idea that unrestrained capitalism is what we worship
or that it even is capitalism that it even is capitalism because oftentimes it's
it's corporatism of course just always exactly um or that free trade is the
ideal it's like even the fathers of modern economics adam smith even david
ricardo who is a a person that basically developed the idea of comparative
advantage which is a big thing yes free trade is good if you protect your
national interest first like like for instance the micro the silicon microchip
was invented by a man from iowa robert noise with intel and then you look at
what's happened now in our country from a product that was invented in our
country we produce 10 of them and all basically all of the high tech versions of
this we can't produce we don't have the technology so the ones that would be a
military application are coming from somewhere else so there's this idea that
that that the market matters overall i'm saying no that's that's not we don't
worship the market like the most egregious example of this i think is when you
look at what happened through free trade in the rust belt and throughout the
midwest where you had people that were told that um you know their jobs were
being shipped overseas but they'd be replaced by high tech jobs that then they'd
be trained by which which by the way is a lie it didn't happen matter of fact
the biggest benefits that came from that were for the leaders of large companies
that chose to do what adam smith said not to do which was you know free trade
was about was about one country doing something really well another country
doing another thing really well right in the exchange it a a comparative
advantage in the market isn't exploitative labor conditions of a communist
government that's not that's not included in the comparative advantage it's not
adam smith didn't foresee that no and so like when capital's mobile and you can
move all of these factories to one place to to get cheap labor everything's
going there and then so who got rich off that well large companies got rich and
then pharmaceutical companies got rich that preyed off purposeful purposeless
white males who lost their work of course in large part the sacklers and it
creates still billionaires never went to jail and like as i say this i i get
like goosebumps because it's like this is just wrong oh yeah i mean the hundreds
of thousands of deaths that have come from this when you take work in purpose
away from people and you sell them a lie that then it's going to be replaced by
these high-tech jobs or high-tech training for jobs and it doesn't happen and
then you have these practices where people you know like here's a new customer
we can get them addicted there's a stat i read it's almost like it was on
purpose you know in 2016 the world economic forum had that article that was
published still online i don't know why it's still online today but it talked
about this idea that in the future you'll own nothing and you'll be happy i tell
people like that wasn't a joke it wasn't a threat it was a plan oh of course and
it's happening oh i know and so there i think many people in our country just
feel as if there's this large plan or effort that's being executed that we're
not privy too no but we have these psyops that happen that like that come up and
uh we're fed them through news or something like that to get on board with it i
think what we just talked about is probably a large part of that this idea that
we're going to take away meaningful manual labor with your hands which by the
way it's like maybe second to farming that type of work is really gratifying
because you're creating a product for i do it in my spare time like i can't wait
to get off work and do it not because i'm great at it or something but because
it's so rewarding it's so refreshing it feeds something it feeds a real hunger i
think in all men and so yes no it's like my primary form of relaxation i just
love it and i think i think every man feels that way i agree i you man you you
look at some of these uh channels on social media that have taken off oh yeah
it's so much of this because it's like we and they're like addicting it's like i
love watching gosh even the bushcraft videos of people making these houses
they're amazing or how about pakistani metalworking videos you ever watch those
that's a whole genre those guys are amazing i've never really liked pakistan
spent time in pakistan you watch those videos you're like i'm pretty pro
pakistan just just just the ingenuity the craftsmanship which is not high by the
way but it's just like these are men making things out of raw materials and it's
just a thrill to watch that yeah and and they're proud of what they create a
hundred percent and they ought to be they should and they have my respect yeah
but in me as well and i would just say that i look at this from the standpoint
of you'll own nothing and i look at this large narrative that's happening in our
country i mean you know this but but even in iowa blackstone is buying
single-family homes there's another company in council bluffs that's doing as
well built multi-billion dollar real estate investment trust it's buying up
single family homes in council bluffs council bluffs that's a tough town yeah
and it across the river from omaha yeah it wouldn't be your first choice it's
meaning that's how that's how ubiquitous this is right it's like it's council
bluffs council bluffs yep and then you look at our farmlands being bought by
people that don't live here and even when you get back into agriculture and you
look at you know iowa's a top pork producing state in the country yes what most
people don't know is i think somewhere above 75 of the pork that's raised in in
iowa the farmers don't own the pigs of course not they're on contract from one
of the big four agriculture conglomerates cargill tyson um jbs and um and
national so we're having this this pride in our work this pride in our land the
health of our people we're having these major issues come up well so can i just
ask you i mean that does so you will own nothing and be happy is a very famous
phrase and thank you for reminding us that it was 10 years ago that it first
emerged and that it was real it was not a meme at that point it was like a
statement of intent but i think that has obscured the even darker reality which
is not only you not own anything you won't create anything yeah i personally
just speaking for myself as a middle-aged man i would rather at this stage
create than own i like both but the joy the thing that proves that you are made
in god's image is your ability to create because god is the creator yeah and
when you create something it's it's the whole purpose of being here whether it's
children or harmony or a pair of reading glasses creation making something out
of nothing is the main joy in life and when you take that away no wonder people
are on fentanyl yeah right well also i think maybe missing like the biggest one
of those is speech well exactly of this right here of what you're creating i
like to believe that's a form of creation it is that's it it's like i spent my
life talking speech is that and and that is that creating this is where i i
believe that we get bogged down in the like the policy in the politics of this
whole thing and we forget about the grander story yes of who we are as a people
that we're endowed by our creator that we're here for a big purpose you know you
know um i spent a number of years building schools and one of the things we'd
say is that we believe every young person is a hero on their journey to find a
calling and change the world like that was the inspirational line that we would
say basically every day like that's who we are that's why we're here and a lot
of this creation has been is being taken away as you mentioned and ai is not the
least of which i tell my kids all the time look use ai for research never let it
write for you writing is how you organize your thoughts it's how you can think
something through to separate the wheat from the chaff to understand how to
think critically to test your ideas and then get in debate and things like that
you can't have a machine do that this is uniquely human thing is for us to to
come up with these ideas based on our unique life experience stealing joy it's
like saying eat a steak for me have sex for me you know wake up at dawn and
watch the sunrise for me no i'll reserve those to myself because those are the
greatest pleasures in life and create creating something is number one on that
list of of joy it's like why would you ever outsource that to a machine ever
understand that did you see the commercial for the product that um basically
records like your grandmother you'll record them when they're alive and then
after they pass away it creates basically an avatar of them but the actual you
can steal my memories so then replace them with the creation of a machine yeah i
don't think so this is this is real though actually this i say it's like for the
longest time we accepted technology and it look farming is a big in this too
it's like look it reduced the burden of labor and there's a certain part of the
point to that that's probably good meaning like hand plowing a field is a really
difficult task using a tractor okay that's probably okay right it is okay
obviously i'm joking but but then when you start to see what it's being used for
now to replace human beings meaning you can continue to have conversations with
this grandmother long after she's passed away and she'll give you her unique
thoughts well that's completely stripping away the divinity of humanity this
idea that we're creating god's image that we each have something unique to share
that humanity is something to be protected and is very special in the history of
in the history of the universe it's very special it's like let me just say this
a lot of my campaign i i comes down to this question i was reading an essay by
wendell berry oh you know it's funny as you were talking i was just thinking of
wendell berry and i was gonna say apropos of nothing i love wendell berry i
thought maybe he's never heard of wendell berry okay i love that you read
wendell berry i love wendell berry a matter of fact his essay on 9 11 was so
radical i think it got taken off the internet but it was like so good you know i
um i i maybe shouldn't say this on here but i drive a tesla and it has an
autopilot feature and there's a period of time when i'd be driving with my kids
and you know somewhere and i might like you know pull pull out the wendell berry
poem book and give them and so on the way to school i was talking to my
sister-in-law yesterday about wendell berry poems literally yesterday there i i
would actually have the kids take turns in the car reading a poem no way because
look understanding these ideas i don't know if there's other than faith and
they're tied in together inextricably woven together are the ideas that wendell
berry puts forward in the ideas of our faith you can't separate them because
it's about creation yes it's about protecting that and understanding that we
were told to tend the garden we're told to subdue but not destroy yes of course
and so i would have the kids read this because it's like i want you guys to know
like look if i'm gone tomorrow and you knew two things about me that i loved my
savior and i loved loved the creation yes i'd be very happy and i hope that you
know if that's the only two things you remember about me and you just had to
keep reflecting on those two things great you're making me emotional again sorry
but in this essay i was actually in the atlantic okay if you're listening to
wendell berry poems in the car with your kids like i'm i tell me where the
fundraiser is because i'm going because i just we need more of this in america
so um he had this uh poem uh this essay he wrote in the atlantic i think it was
1991 and somebody some quote i read turned me on to that and i was like i wonder
what this is so i went and read read the whole thing and in it he talked about
this idea and i think this summarizes so much what i'm talking about when i say
farm farmland's being owned by people who don't live here our jobs are being
shipped to other countries or factories being shipped to other countries we've
unchecked monopolies that are exploiting our farmers we have the highest cancer
rate but we're not talking about it wendell berry said that a foundational
question that the amish ask before they make any big decision is what will this
change do to our community yes and i think i don't know anyone who would deny
that our politicians and our leaders have not been asking that question for a
very long that is absolutely right and that is absolutely right and and we don't
ask ourselves enough how will this change us and our relationships and our
understanding of god in the world and i think that of labor-saving devices i
find myself i'm the product of you know america and at its peak and there's not
enough labor actually and i find myself trying to eliminate labor-saving devices
from my life merely so i will have the experience of labor yeah we hand grind
our coffee don't have to do that why do we do that i always say to my befuddled
and grumpy children like because we're not depending on electricity for
everything you can grind your own coffee it's okay and i just feel like that and
obviously i'm insane so that informs a lot of my decisions it's my lunacy but it
also speaks to like a need in all people to be involved in the production of
something yeah right oh absolutely like doordash is i'm not against doordash but
like not that i've used it but like i don't know it you gain something but you
also lose something that's all i'm saying yeah when you feel the feeling of
accomplishment it's it's a liberating feeling yes it's a it's a feeling that
brings pride and i would say this it's a feeling that brings pride that also if
you understand your own history of your family and your story that you can
connect it to what's happened generation and generation and generation before i
think so much of where we've went wrong is that you know i was at a gosh i was
at a a funeral for a woman that i loved dearly her name was um becky elder and
she was an agrarian uh from kansas and you know lived in kansas for a while and
she was somebody who started schools she was an amazing woman i mean like this
this could get me emotional but um uh i was at her funeral uh about a week ago
and uh she was i would call a daughter of the prairie like loved creation tended
it had their own farms all these things um and her son was reading something
about her and he said one of the most common sins is forgetting forgetting where
we come from forgetting our heritage forgetting that these places really matter
and so like when i'm in my community and i'm seeing the people i'm surrounded
with in large part you know it's like many of many of these places feel
forgotten especially by our our politicians who didn't ask these questions of
what will these changes do to our community i have a defensive mechanism that
comes up in me to say like i'm gonna hear it i'm gonna fight for you i'm gonna
do it i don't know what that is i don't know where that came from but i would
just say that god put something on me to say look maybe i win this governor's
race maybe i don't my whole life is going to be focused on these issues because
they're issues of caring for your neighbor and it's the one of the two commands
i've been given by jesus and so you know that's why we work with you know i we
could do farming a different way and i could make more money on that i have a
family that i love that i want to like work with specifically because it's
additive to the whole equation yes you know my great-grandparents were living on
the farm i've i found all these documents and i hear stories about them from the
community you know it's so interesting it's like we talk about we don't know who
owns our land you know before when i was growing up and i talked about these
pieces of land we've bought some of these pieces because the people have passed
on and oftentimes they'll want to sell to us because they know where my heart is
and they don't want it to go into an auction and they don't want it going to
somebody from out of state or out of the country we don't know um we call the
pieces of land by the last name of the people that lived there forever always we
do the same that's what we do and exactly right and it's honoring like i've told
my wife i i plan to put up plaques or signs saying like this is this farm this
is the history of this farm it's exactly what we do it's exactly right and
that's exactly the way to do it and so when i was talking early on about this
idea of something lost i remember hearing some of these stories and one of the
stories i really loved was that you know my uh great-grandmother my
great-grandpa uh when they were on this farm you know these iowa communities
used to be dotted with these small farmsteads all over many of them have just
been bulldozed and farmed over because you know people are growing and growing
and growing farm consolidation is happening everywhere and of course and with
the consolidation every time a farm is consolidated i say to people life goes
out of our community like we have to get our young people back on these farms
one of my biggest biggest efforts i'm going to be undertaking is to do that they
were so tight-knit in these communities that my uh people tell me you know we
used to come over to your your house this house coffee was on until 10 pm at
night and your great-grandma and your great-grandpa were actually the counselors
of our neighborhood so they had these groups and so if husband wife were having
an issue they'd come over and they'd sit and talk this through if they're having
issues with kids they'd sit and talk these things through and they cared for
each other and they're involved in each other's lives and we're experiencing
likely the exact opposite of that trend happening where and it's having a
profound effect on our culture where we're becoming insular and othering that
you know just because you have a bumper sticker that somebody doesn't like that
they're not to be talked to just not not at all like not what defined us back
then no not at all and we're not allowed to behave like that anyway my dream for
the state of iowa is to see a long-term rich agrarian society like a long-term
rich agriculture heritage be restored that's my dream and that's that's what i'm
fighting for boy that's got to be one of the toughest battles you could fight
it's but it's worth it it's a you know it's foundational not just to the state
but to us as a people i think it's something in like our soul that like working
with our hands in the dirt with animals with family multiple generations there's
a book by a guy named alan carlson i think it was it's called the the natural
family and where it belongs and i had another basically radicalizing moment for
me was reading this and realizing this man said so many things that i didn't
know how to say just that that setup of farmstead and neighboring farmstead they
care for each other and that did a lot of life together was the most in tuned
and connected i think spiritually we could probably say we have been as a
society or community and i would like to see that return what i don't quite we
met at an event a couple of months ago a very crowded event and had like a
three-minute i'd never heard of you we had a three-minute conversation i was
like whoa i want to talk to that guy um so i should just confirm to anyone who's
still watching this uh an hour in that uh you talk this way private too which i
love but what do people in like a official organized iowa politics think when
you say stuff like this you know in in longer form of discussions i find that
it's very very good but i think that politics has been so overtaken with this
like bumper sticker ideology yes which is like i think somebody once said a
bumper sticker is a substitute for thought or something like that for sure and
and so and also i just think i'm not the typical person that would run for
office like i really that's putting it mildly i really like i've really worked
hard to you know be on our farm to farm it to have my kids understand that to
work in education and these types of things i really worked hard to do that this
was not something that i had just like saying you know what timings like i've
been waiting for this forever we're doing this it was more that i thought you
know there's no term limits on the governor of iowa the longest serving governor
in history of america is iowa's former governor terry brent said so in my head
and in my heart as i was talking to my wife about this it's like the next person
who gets elected governor could be governor till i die oh yeah well look at look
at your senior senator emphasis on the senior i like him i'm not attacking him
but he served for a couple hundred years i think it's like that uh a quote when
ronald reagan said uh i knew abraham lincoln and you're no abraham lincoln i
love that but but it's you know so politics is not the place for long form deep
and spiritual discussion and i wish it was because i think if it was you'd
require people running for office to connect with you at a deeper level to
actually understand what you're going through and to know that they care about
those issues because you know i don't care how low our taxes are if i'll say
this if our kids are leaving and our people are dying from cancer we are not in
what i'd call successful territory that's exactly right and the beauty of
economics is uh it's supposedly a species of science which means it can be
tested so if you have an economic system in progress longitudinally over a
period of time then you can assess with the highest degree of accuracy whether
it worked or not right because you look at the outcomes and by that measure
socialism communism is like the worst possible failure our current system is not
anything like that but it's not a it's not a win it's a failure because look
around so like what we're doing isn't working yeah i don't care what they tell
you at some think tank or what should happen i've lived long enough to see what
actually happened and no yeah it doesn't work and what look at some of these new
ideas that are coming out which by the way it's like the fact that these have to
be stated is kind of crazy and then the fact that we get pushed back on it like
i'm somebody who firmly believes that the priorities of my government and my
economy should be solely focused on making life better for the people that live
in my state in my country like not racist not not for big business not for
foreign countries like and i think so many people just thought that was the case
and then like meaning like people that were not really paying attention but it's
like the politicians are all telling me like we're gonna work on this low tax
we're gonna work on this thing it's like but hold on what just a day ago 81
republicans voted to keep 315 million dollars of spending for the national and
endowment for democracy what yeah not on your side yes right and it's like after
everything that elon musk went through yeah after all of what these people did
all of what they took in the news all of like the the conflicts and and
relationships that have broke down to this that one thing that we know is a
front organization in large part is now getting hundreds of millions of dollars
from our government and republicans are voting yes on it of course they are it's
like we're not learning anything it's like the the idea how am i laughing
because i don't know what else to do how could you ever deny the existence of
the uniparty at this point oh i know well you have a very prominent republican
uh senator and presidential candidate working with the adl to suppress the
speech of americans so it's like hmm maybe the current system isn't what they
tell and but people know that it's that it's fake and i guess the good news is
we still have enough elbow room enough freedom in the united states that you
know reform is possible if enough people are like no come on now you have to
serve our interests sort of or at least acknowledge them yeah you you would hope
so i think like this vote specifically is is it quite the conundrum to that
point right like this all just happened right well i could name eight other
things you're right happened in the last month and you're like this is this is
so unbelievable it's so outrageous like you can't continue the internal
contradictions have reached the point of breaking and like oh we're getting
something new and then it's just like uh on to the next yeah it'll be you're
right it'll be gone in a week like in a week it's gone now it's got yeah exactly
it but to that point i think this is why this idea of running for governor is so
appealing it's like maybe i'm wrong for saying this but i've largely written off
washington dc i think that's fair and it's like it if the people that we've put
in power now granted i will say there's some huge huge shining stars i think
what robert f kennedy is doing yeah unbelievable the repercussions of this for
the pot for positive health benefits of americans will will reverberate for for
for generations if it can stay in place because he's going to help an entire
generation of people become far more healthy live better lives meet their great
grandkids potentially like that's amazing and have clearer heads and purer
spirits like just start with like just the government should not officially
endorse eating a thousand pounds of sugar a year just that right there flipping
over the nutrition tables into something that more closely resembles reality
that's a huge step reducing the vax schedule from like you know a million
vaccines for the newborn to you know a smaller number you got to call that a win
that's a win it's also something that i think we believe why are we even having
to have this fight oh like but you know like somebody asked me the other day
what do you think the most pressing issue facing america is and i like taking
out the spirit because spirituality is intertwined but taking that out i said i
think it's that our government is run by unelected people and we don't know who
they are yeah and and i was talking without our best interest at heart at all
and so this idea of america first of iowa first it's like to many of us this is
just common sense it's like this is what the country was set up for what's the
other form of government that's legitimate i can't think of one if if this is a
democratic republic and the government is acting in an interest that's not our
interest how is that legitimate how is it not grounds for you know anyway um
right there's no other legitimate form of government but america first or iowa
first like there's that's the only option and how we got away from that is
unbelievable and like look i was talking to my dad about some of these things
the other day and you know some things you can think and know but not exactly
know how to describe or put into words and i get that feeling when i think about
the shift that our country clearly went through after the assassination of john
f kennedy well that's it right there it seemed as if something spiritual
happened at that point within our country and it has to do with the complete
disregard for truth honesty yeah or like the american public deserving to know
what's happening and then you know i read a tweet one day i don't know who said
it maybe it's russell brand or somebody that said something along the lines of
like the the future success of our country and the kennedys is like intertwined
in some way and so it is true i never used to believe that and i would hear
these baby boomers say that was the day everything changed and and they were
silly not they were not serious people but they could feel something that was
true and that was clearly true that that a lot did change everything changed
when he was assassinated in a way that i did not appreciate tell it was much
older and but they were they were right they were right in saying that and the
fact that 63 years later you know cia still will not this is a fact will not
divulge yeah all the information that it has on his murder despite a bunch of
laws from congress despite a executive order from the president of the united
states in january a year ago they're still hiding it clearly there were you know
probably a lot of people involved probably a foreign country clearly involved
our own government clearly involved so like and they're still lying about it
it's wild but uh if the truth sets you free then lives and sleep lies enslave
you yeah the adverse is true so i think we are enslaved in some sense by these
lies you know i think where i see this most is in the newest generation of
people that are coming up um you know uh coming of age so to speak and there's
some very loud voices out there that they're all flocking to one in very in
particular that you've interviewed and people ask me all the time like why do i
think that is and i just say guys look at the lies exactly look at what's
happened look at the lack of justice the last lack of accountability like what
we don't like where's fauci like what what about the hunter biden laptop when
are these people going to be arrested i said this about trump 10 years ago when
i lived in washington i'm a product of washington obviously and i wrote a piece
basically trump is popular because you failed and it's not wasn't an endorsement
of everything trump said though i like trump um but and voted for him but it
wasn't it's not about trump like trump wouldn't have existed if the system was
working and the same is true of the the person you're referring to whose name
shall not be named um but no no it's true it's like we argue about is is he good
or bad does is he you know whatever but the argument's not really about him it's
what the system that allowed someone like that to become popular it's like why
do you think people are watching that because you failed you betrayed your own
voters yes yes that is right yes and and look one of the biggest issues that's
come up is about you know immigration yeah it's all over and i think for a long
time we have been criticized ostracized for noticing what's happening and
calling it out to say like what's happening and and you know there's this idea
of replacement migration this replacement theory and you like i don't ever talk
about this but it's like people talk about it and they're immediately just
hammered down well in 2000 the un put out a document called replacement
migration of course 144 pages multiple languages but i read this and it's like
it's lining out exactly what's happening and it's saying look european nations
are going to be losing population you know america's be losing population what's
the answer well traditionally throughout history the answer is to promote having
more children make it easier for people who have kids yes make life more
affordable right bring home the money that's being spent overseas and use i mean
imagine you just talk about iraq and afghanistan imagine what our country would
be if we didn't spend 10 trillion dollars on that yeah imagine what we could
have done for our children in our communities so when you look at this and
you're in your you're called this conspiracy i'm not called that because i don't
ever talk about this but people are called conspiracy theorists for bringing up
this idea of replacement migration they literally wrote a white paper on it of
course and they describe what it's going to do and then you look at these people
that are feeling like you know especially young white males like they're being
taken out of society they're being told they don't matter matter of fact they
have this original sin of being who they are it's unbelievable and then you in
the sounds like a dangerous conspiracy there you ever look at the census numbers
oh yeah right so again we can just bring science to bear on this is the native
population being replaced i don't know let's check the census answer yes how
about we do it by zip code i'm 56 so what's let's go back to 1970 census of 1970
just spend an afternoon reading that and so anyone who tells you you're a bigot
or you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing is you know is is not is lying and
probably lying in order to hurt you and and tucker why it's like well right it's
like why are we not allowed to have and appreciate and love our culture and why
are we also not allowed to let people in that want to be a part of that culture
that's the whole idea people ask me how to pronounce my last name and it's
l-a-h-n but it's pronounced lane well why is that well my great great grandpa
when he came over he wanted to keep the german spelling but he wanted to be a
pronounced american and they took on the american customs and they became
american yeah that's what it was and the idea that we're saying that this is how
did uh how did the the family pronounce it in germany i it was i was told it was
pronounced learn like it's right and that's what i was told someday i'm as you
could probably imagine i'm gonna go over there and dig as deep as i can and all
this stuff because it's you know some people get the bug for learning this about
their family i am that human like i i love this like i love learning about my
history and heritage and you know what like 150 years in america is a thing to
be very proud of yes and but also like yeah they likely did not want to leave
where they were at they didn't want to go three three weeks on a boat in the
stowage you know from northern germany northern germany and on my mom's side
actually the um family's been here since revolution actually my a great ancestor
direct great ancestor died in the revolutionary war me too and so these voices
of people who understand the culture that our ancestors created and it's
something to be so proud of it's so inclusive it reduces suffering it is
welcoming to people but the idea that you can come in and try to put something
else over top of that and charlie kirk said this beautifully he said something
i'm a butcher's words and i'm i'm i'm sorry for that i i first met him in 2011 i
think we're supposed to be in the same event um i said something along the lines
of the reason we're in a constitutional crisis is because we have a christian
form of government but we have elected people that are not following that custom
and religion i hate christianity and so you're going to have a constitutional
crisis you're going to have fraud all over the place you're going to like your
institutions will break down because the system was a bespoke system it was
created for the people who lived under it and you've got different people so
you're going to get a different system yeah it was it was created not a value
judgment it's just an observation yeah it was created uh exactly amazing amazing
conversation i'm intentionally not going to ask you about the politics of it
you're going to have plenty of time to talk about that um but i think this is
gives you know any anyone who has again watched to this point is either you know
like oh my gosh i'm sending this man money or stop him um but i am interested
like when really quick last question what is the process from here on out so our
primary elections june 2nd okay and then uh what if if we win the primary then
the elections in november how many people in the primary there's five people in
the primary right now um and so i believe we have a really really good shot at
this and i believe our message the time for the message that we're saying is now
and that i there's been a um i think there there's there's been a void that's
been there and people are wanting politicians and people running for office
because i've never ran for office i'm not a politician they're wanting people
that will speak truth to them and then we'll talk about the big issues even if
the donors and the special interests say i've told them i don't want your money
i i'm not looking for your money i'm actually you i'm actually here to stop a
lot of the practices that you're putting in place and so i've said i'm my own
biggest donor to this campaign i will not be bought it won't happen oh boy
they're gonna try and stop you um it's not radicalism that scares them it's it's
quite sincere determination uh i would say so godspeed thank